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Rick Warren’s Surprising Advice to Pentecostal Churches

While I question the understanding of an “outsider” of the particular Pentecostal form I follow, it does not lessen the validity of the observation posed herein.  I think we should look closely at our church surroundings and make hard decisions about – everything; from the motive of our gathering to the accuracy of our teachings, to our personal contribution to the Kingdom.  As I do not know the heart of Mr. Warren, nor anyone else, I cannot deny or endorse anything in this report.  But I am here to bring myself and you to a point of ponder and consideration of the issues as they pertain to God and His purpose toward us.  I think both this report and it’s content do exactly that.

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Rick Warren’s Surprising Advice to Pentecostal Churches.

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Posted by on November 26, 2011 in Guess where I went?, Notes from God

 

The Journey to Reclaim Godly Femininity Part II

I was doing some “tag surfing”, following some links to key words that were posted for my site to find similar sites, and I found this posting that I was very impressed with. I found two actually; I’ll get the other one up momentarily, by the same author. Her blog is The Gentle Home. Check it out!

The Journey to Reclaim Godly Femininity Part II

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by thegentlehomein Bible verses, my journey with GodTags: Bible, bible verse, Bible verses, faith, God, Jesus, love, marriage, scripture, woman

Last week I shared with you how my heart had been stirred to find out what Godly femininity really was- that is, what does God, as our Creator, have to say about His female creation? Surely, as our Designer He would have a few things to say to us. (Read Part I here) As a Christian woman, I knew there were certain ways I should conduct myself, but after studying a few scriptures that described femininity as God truly intended it to be (Ephesians 5: 22-24, 1 Timothy 2: 9-15, Titus 2: 3-5, 1 Timothy 5:14, 1 Peter 3: 1-6, Proverbs 31) I was shown by the perfecting light of God’s word how far I was from His original and beautiful design. And why was it I failed to find very many women who I could also look to and say- “Yes, she follows the word of God. She is modest, loving, discreet, gentle and quiet, submissive to her husband- yes that is a Godly and feminine woman.” Although I am blessed to know some lovely Godly women! (And by submissive I just mean living in the order of the family as God made it: Christ the head of the husband, husband the head of his wife. It is not a bad thing! See Ephesians 5:22-33)

I was also shown in His word that God’s standards for maintaining purity in this world are much higher than I realized, but the end result of becoming a Godly woman much more glorious than I could have imagined! I began to have a deep “heart hunger” to reclaim the life of Godly femininity that our society has rejected but God has wondrously and clearly defined in His word, the Bible, and through Jesus given me the power to walk in it. And not only that, but to see other women also throw off all else and eagerly pursue this journey of knowing, understanding and walking in the light of the Biblical definition of what it means to be made female.

There are a lot of things I thought I would write about here in Part II…none of which I am going to do. I realized anything that I wanted to say I could not give justice to in just one or two posts. I thought I would simply leave you with some verses that may inspire you, encourage you, convict you, or just make you think. I pray you continue to study the Bible and allow it to transform you.

“Who can find a virtuous wife? For her worth is far above rubies. The heart of her husband safely trusts her; So he will have no lack of gain. She does him good and not evil all the days of her life.” Proverbs 31: 10-12

“The older women likewise, that they be reverent in behavior, not slanderers, not given to much wine, teachers of good things- that they admonish the young women to love their husbands, to love their children, to be discreet, chaste, homemakers, good, obedient to their husbands, that they word of God may not be blasphemed.” Titus 2: 3-5

“Wives, likewise, be submissive to your own husbands, that even if some do not obey the word, they, without a word, may be won by the conduct of their wives, when they observe your chaste conduct accompanied by fear.” 1 Peter 3:1-2

“For this is the will of God, your sanctification…that each of you should know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor.”

1 Thessalonians 4:3-4

“And as the bridegroom rejoices over the bride, So shall your God rejoice over you.” Isaiah 62: 5

“So the King will greatly desire your beauty; Because He is your Lord, worship Him.” Psalm 45: 11

[God talking to Jerusalem, but also to us, His beloved] ” ‘You were exceedingly beautiful and succeeded to royalty. Your fame went out among the nations because of your beauty, for it was perfect through My splendor which I had bestowed on you,’ says the Lord God.” Ezekiel 16: 13-14 (emphasis mine. Read all of Ezekiel chapter 16- it is stunning)

There is a radiant vision of womanhood, of femininity that we have lost so much of and now are continuing to lose in this society. I am on a journey to reclaim it- for myself, for my daughter especially, but also for all the women everywhere who don’t yet know how they long to step into this place of rest. This place of Godly femininity.

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  • Linda
    Oct 03, 2011 @ 15:38:19

Beautiful. You do a wonderful job of writing about this subject. I will share this one also if you don’t mind.

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Oh thank you, yes that is fine with me!

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I think you should just write. write write write! so what if you end up with Godly femininity part 1000. I think you should just do it. I think it is great you are discovering the woman God wants YOU to be! I think the only thing that made my heart sink was Identifying godly women. Its wonderful to see other women just like us but we also have to keep in mind that just because there are women not like us that doesn’t mean they are not Godly themselves. Like you I am building myself. Im doing it differently but I am still following a calling. And even though yours is different then mine, I can still see the same divine quality in you as I see in myself and many other women. Girl go deep with this. If not on your blog then in a special diary that’s for you and God. ( my mom has mountains of these journals lol). Heck write a book!. Yes you are going to piss off alot of people but atleast you are following your heart and following a greater calling rather than the latest issue of Cosmo.

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Oh, my! Your friends are correct; you have a natural talent for writing. I’m not sure how much study, if any, you put into this but, the scriptures aren’t as important as having in your heart an understanding of what God wants and that you can freely express that in your writing. I don’t know you, either, and I’m not doubting you but, if you wrote all of this out of your thoughts, whether your own or divinely inspired, you have a gift. This is the very gift I’m trying develop my self. I simply mean that what I just described happens to me some, too, and by writing more it may happen more often.

Now, here’s the important part; Even though I did like your modesty post this one seems to be, and let me explain this, more righteous! You may say what’s the difference. I’m about to post a study, a revelation, on the core, deeper understanding of righteousness in about a week or so, come see it. And I wish I had mentioned this in the comments to you and your friend Mea yesterday. Anyway, here’s the point, righteousness is much more than “just right living”, as I have often heard it explained. The core definition is to put God first! And that’s what you’ve done here. In modesty for yourself it is ok to help your brothers not to lust, as the other blog you linked to pointed out. It is ok to want to fit in at church, or make a statement of your femininity. However, those things MUST be the after-thought. You must do all things for God first. In this post you stayed right on track with stating what God desired in these issues and that you were wanting to do these things for Him. I’m glad you see the ways that you can help others by living for God but, helping men not to lust, being submissive to your husband and ALL that other stuff HAS TO BE the beneficial by-product of doing it because The Lord wants it done. Have a great day, and thanks. PS: I’d like to put some of these on my site, if you don’t mind?

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Thank you again for your honest comments, I appreciate them! I certainly don’t mind if you want to share the posts, I am encouraged knowing that my writing may be an encouragement to someone else. I think I do understand what you are saying…that everything should be done because you love the Lord first, because more than anything you are listening to the Holy Spirit and following what He says, not because of any other reason- no matter how well meaning.

 
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Posted by on November 5, 2011 in Guess where I went?

 

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Modesty, the Church and What Guys Think…

I was doing some “tag surfing”, following some links to key words that were posted for my site to find similar sites, and I found this posting that I was very impressed with. I found two actually; I’ll get the other one up momentarily, by the same author. Her blog is The Gentle Home. Check it out!

Modesty, the Church and What Guys Think…

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2011
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by thegentlehomein God & Faith, God Tags: beautiful, beauty, Bible, Christian, Christianity, clothes, dress, faith, God, Godly femininity, modesty, the church

When I wrote about Godly femininity recently, there was much I wanted to say- more that I didn’t really dive into. There were many responses from the two posts, as it seems femininity is a strangely controversial topic these days, and I didn’t quite know how to respond to all of them. I could continue to make my case, that God is good and loving and His plan has our best interests at heart, or I could be silent, knowing that those who were determined to pervert what I was trying to convey would do so regardless. The fact that God has clearly outlined pictures of how women are to behave, dress, act and speak seems to go unnoticed in this fast paced, take charge, do-everything-a-man-can-do world we live in. Nevertheless, it is there, waiting for us to see the beauty in His plan and take hold of it, and by doing so we’ll shine ever brighter in this dark world.

Modesty was something I really wanted to talk about. Modesty in attitude and behavior, but more specifically, modesty in dress. To be quite honest, dressing modestly was not something I ever really thought about before in my Christian walk. I knew there were certain things I really should not wear, i.e. miniskirts, or really low cut blouses, but other than that I never really gave it a second thought. I actually loved the latest trends and loved wearing cute styles that showed off my fashion sense. When I began to look into scriptures that described the woman of God, I couldn’t help but notice how her appearance was mentioned:

“And in like manner also that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel with propriety and discretion…” 1 Tim 2:9

“…to be discreet, chaste…” Titus 2:5

“Do not let your adornment be merely outward…rather let it be the hidden person of the heart…” 1 Peter 3:3-4

God had already been working on my heart by the time I read these scriptures. I felt a deep conviction that I was to honor God with my body that the way I look was to be pleasing to God, as His child and also as the Christ‘s beloved. I am to be the glory of my husband, be pleasing to him in dress and conduct and to give him honor in front of others. My sexuality is not to be flaunted in any way and is to be kept only for my husband. I realized some things I wore that I thought were modest, were really not… God has a much better perspective than I do. That is why we must go to Him to know the way in which we should behave, act and dress.

But it is much more than that.

As I studied this issue of modesty, I found something I did not expect. I found beauty. I found that God does not hand out orders for us to obey because he delights in giving us rules to follow, no… His plan for us is perfect and beautiful, just as He is perfectly beautiful, and in our sinful human minds we often cannot see the wisdom of His ways. I found myself falling before Him, the God who is extravagantly
beautiful, holy and pure. And the most wondrous part of all is that He desires that we share in all that He has and is.

Ladies, God desires your beauty. He desires that you be beautiful for Him. What a thought! But He also desires our holiness and the two go hand in hand. He does not want you to have the beauty that the world offers or the kind that it defines, but only His complete beauty. He longs to give to us what is His. He longs to wash us to make us clean. He longs to clothe us. He longs to make us beautiful.

I found a wonderful blog post titled, “What Guys Think about Modesty.” It really moved me and opened my eyes and I hope you will take a few minutes and watch the video at the end.

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You are right on! Thank you for your blog. It has been such a sad thing to see how society has corrupted us. I remember when my daughter was in Kindergarten and we had trouble finding decent clothes for her to wear. Madonna was the rage at that time and she was influencing the clothing industry. I was so shocked to see parents allowing their daughters to where sensual clothing that even adult women shouldn’t wear in public. And then when it became popular for women to wear what we call lingerie and camisoles for their shirts was absolutely amazing. The industry took something that was meant for privacy and brought it out in the open. Women invite problems for themselves when they dress in ways that draw men’s eyes to them. They also take the surprise out of it for any man they may marry. It all serves to keep men and women focused on the wrong things. Modest dress would help to curb our natural desires and give us the chance to focus on some other things, like God.

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  • Linda
    Nov 03, 2011 @ 03:38:44

Just don’t wear those black stockings and grandma shoes.

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Linda, you always make me laugh

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Definitely not. Nothing says we can’t be attractive, just be decent about it.

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  • Mea
    Nov 03, 2011 @ 06:08:35

Sorry I have to be the adversary…again (rolls eyes) lol. Actually I don’t disagree with you a whole lot here. Yes you are right the bible does give a description of how God wants men and women to act dress and behave. Woohoo we agree! Lol. Actually I just wanted to give my POV. Not saying yours is wrong because it isn’t. Just that to me modesty differs from community to community. If you were to go back in time and wear what you are wearing now you wouldn’t be very modest lol. The Amish might not consider you very modest. However within your community you are very modest. Muslims consider a woman who covers her hair and skin modest women. I knew a Gothic Muslim. OMG she was such a sweetie! But I wouldn’t consider her modest because she stuck out like a sore thumb yet she was very modest in the eyes of other Muslims. I have done rituals skyclad and that was considered modest within that group of people. Modesty varies even within the Christian community. Most Pentecostals believe that woman should not have short hair and should only wear skirts. But that’s their thing, and you know my perception. Whatever brings you closer to God.
Yes I am more open with my sexuality but in my community it is acceptable. (NOT SAYING I SLEEP AROUND! just needed to clarify. I am monogamous) and it doesn’t bother me that you feel otherwise.
As far as the do-anything-a-man-can-do mentality. That’s not mine. I don’t believe I can do anything a man can do; I believe I can do anything I set my mind to. And from my perspective that seems to be more of the mentality now a days. Not saying that you are wrong because you experience the world differently than I.
I think it’s still possible to wear those miniskirts and tube tops and low cut blouses. Wear pants underneath a short skirt or dress; wear a shirt under a low cut blouse or tube top. I’m notorious for dressing in layers but that’s just because I am weird like that. I am not trying to seek attention I just wear whatever makes me feel comfortable. If people don’t like it that’s their problem not mine. I’m not here to please everyone, only myself and most importantly Deity. I suppose that’s why to some extent I disagree with the video. Not on the topic of modestly but the topic of sin. I won’t go into detail about it for the simple fact that I don’t want to start a war lol. We have enough of that in the world and I just want to be hippie right now.
Once again I am NOT disagreeing with you. In fact I do agree with you for the most part. What I agree most with is pleasing God, not the world. Yes ma’am! Once again this wasn’t an argument just my POV that’s all. You are a beacon of light to many Christian women and you make a lot of Christian women say to themselves, “Wow, she’s right!” You do plant a lot of seeds. Be silent only when you listen, never out of fear. I think you are doing good. Keep it up….oh and write a book. =) (Hugs, Hugs)

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Thanks for your always interesting comments! I agree, the technicalities of what is modest and what is not can change, and while there may be small gray areas I still think there is mostly black and white. I love how Romans puts it- if it causes your brother to stumble- don’t do it, or in this case, don’t wear it.

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  • Mea
    Nov 04, 2011 @ 15:38:04

    Lol I’m glad you thought it was interesting. I just thought it was cool to see how modesty differs from culture to culture. Your right it’s both gray and black and white. It’s such a strange thing.

  • Lacey
    Nov 03, 2011 @ 14:48:30

I appreciated this post! What I enjoyed most about it was your willingness to be convicted and led by the Holy Spirit. We should always be willing to change anything and everything for Him.

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Thanks! I agree!

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Rodi, you’re right on in your words. Thank you for sharing what all women/girls, ALL Mea, need to adhere to. My only negative for you might be, maybe you should consider changing you “about” picture to match your post. I’m assuming you’re on the learning curve and your conviction hasn’t quite caught up with our new knowledge. So, just carry-on, you’re on the fight track.

But, my goodness, Mea. Different communities still have the same God! And He doesn’t have different rules for you. No matter how many communities you go to, you still take the same body, modify it for modesty! Some communities would have you jailed and beaten for not doing so; while the consequences of others would have you so sexually tortured you’d wish for a quick end. I most certainly am not a religious fanatic but, here’s what’s got me on my box:

I’m notorious for dressing in layers but that’s just because I am weird like that. I am not trying to seek attention I just wear whatever makes me feel comfortable.

You have no idea, or just totally disregard the fact, that you have a RESPONSIBILITY in how you dress and it is not to look better that the girl next to you. Please keep reading this blog, or mine, or others maybe it’ll sink in that Satan has gotten you without even a struggle by shielding you from the truth and allowing you to be comfortable in your own false reasoning. I’m sorry to be so grumpy, because, believe it or not, I love you! I do not know you, don’t worry, but because your Gods’, I love you and that forces me to tell you the truth. Moreover I love Him, and I don’t want Him to have to suffer the pain of losing you when it’s all over. Please consider these things carefully. Lord bless you, really.

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Thank you for your comments! And about my “about” picture- I actually had thought of that previously…about changing it, and I think maybe I will! I would really hate that what people see of me on the outside, does not reflect the love I have for Heavenly Father.

 
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Posted by on November 5, 2011 in Guess where I went?

 

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I went to the website for First United Methodist Church at 315 E. Elm St., Hillsboro

Which is http://hillsborofumc.com/

While I was there I clicked on the Bible Study link, because that’s what we’re doing on this site.  The current subject was The Gospels, a general overall look at the books as a group.   It was a fine post for that level of reader, but, here, I want to stay on the “deeper, core understanding” side of things.  I’m simply going repost their entry, it belongs to them, I have not altered it.  And following is the response I posted in their comments form.

Sorry I missed last week. Short week and I was out of town but here is the latest offering.

Let’s move out of the Old Testament into the new. Let’s look at the four Gospels as a whole. The four are Matthew, Mark< Luke and John. What are Gospels as opposed to the Epistles? The Gospels are accounts of the Ministry of Jesus. Even with that, they are almost as wide in their scope as any four books could be if you consider they are retelling the ministry and the death and resurrection of God Himself.

There are other books that claim to be Gospels like the Gospel of Thomas and others. However, the church felt that these were the be canonized. The cannon means that there are certain measurements that have to be met to be included in and a part of the Scriptures. The four Gospels met the data to qualify.

Later, as we go back through the books more in depth, we will get into the authorship, date and particular passages. For now, we will only take them up as a collection.

Of the four Gospels, Mark is perhaps the oldest and most original. Without getting into the details, Matthew and Like borrow from Mark but Mark doesn’t seem to us others. So if Matthew and Luke uses Mark but Mark doesn’t use them, then they know and probably read Mark.

John’s Gospel stands alone.

Matthew and Luke include the Birth narrative but the Mark and John do not. Even with that, Luke was probably wrote his narrative later depending not on first hand knowledge or eye witnessing. He seems to have collected stories of Jesus and wrote his Gospel.

Mark is the shortest of the books. It is because for him the most important thing was the Crucifixion and Resurrection.

John on the other hand wrote independently and uses the language of the Greeks or Romans. His is a book with soaring language and includes some influence of other worldly theology. His of the best written source that enables us to soar.

The Gospels were written after the writers realized that Christ would come again but His return was still some time away. They wanted to create a story that could be read by people all over the world and learn and become indeed Christians. For the first 20 to 50 or so years the church depended on oral traditions. It became evident that in order for the stories to be told consistently and over a wide spread area, they needed to be written.

I suggest that a good Gospel to read to get a foundation, Mark is your guy. His is focus on the ministry of Christ and gets you quickly to the days before the Cross but then he slows down the story to a crawl. Notice how often he uses the work “immediately” until the last few chapters. If helps us to realize that even the miracles, parables, etc were not as important as the events of the last week.

That is true but let’s remember that it is in the richness of the other parts in the other Gospels that makes the soul soar and the stories we love so. After all, who want to miss out on the Birth Narratives?

Peace and Peace. Reed.

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Well, praise the Lord!

I read this entry, enjoyed this entry, and recognize the generality of the passage.  I say this so you won’t take this as negative toward your post.  It’s simply another point or perspective on the Gospels.

Have you ever watched a line of sharp dressed marines during some rifle drills.  Every toe is in line, every crease in the clothing is exactly the same and every rifle turns and spins in perfect unison.  Even outside this special drill team the military members are just as dedicated to their other duties; being punctual, knowing and doing whats required without question and, probably most relative here, doing it with a diligent consistency you can count on.  All of this is defined as military discipline and it’s laid out in manuals, training and experience. Discipline, in Websters, is the orderly or prescribed conduct or pattern of behavior.

And that is what I want to express to people about the Gospels, as a group.  Yes, they contain “Good News” and they certainly recount the ministry and teachings of Jesus.  However, it is acting on those teachings that is vitally important.  You see, discipline is a verb, an action!  It comes from the word disciple.  The disciples had training from Jesus, experience from walking with Him and they wrote  the manual.  The Gospels are more than good news, they are the Discipline Manual we should live by.

Next subject: I am making an attempt at a new blog and it just so happens this subject will be one of topics for a later date.  In the mean time I would like all interested parties to stop by and give their feedback on the inaugural post.  Please pass this on to your pastor as I am specifically looking for comments from leadership levels, but want them from everyone.

May the Lord bless you, thank you.

 
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Posted by on October 11, 2011 in Guess where I went?

 
 
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